tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3458341.post4405714519317295743..comments2024-01-06T10:36:04.084-05:00Comments on A Commonplace Blog: The moral act of writingD. G. Myershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10659136455045567825noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3458341.post-10444470439102331602010-01-16T11:53:28.598-05:002010-01-16T11:53:28.598-05:00I have just discovered your blog and am happy to f...I have just discovered your blog and am happy to find a fellow Roth-lover. I would like to point another couple of I think central aspects of his achievement:<br /><br />In works like The Anatomy Lesson, Operation Shylock, Counterlife, etc., Roth became one of our great formal experimenters and a novelist who constantly thought and rethought the novel, a sort of quiet partner in this sense to Pynchon more than to Bellow. As much as I love Pynchon, the fact that Roth managed to be equally radical while seeming to toss off many of his most complex manuevers as jokes adds a kind of grace and maturity to his work.<br /><br />Then of course there is the somewhat obvious but nevertheless, for me at least, hugely liberating idea: Great art can be funny. And I don't mean as a secondary characteristic. Rather, what Roth let me see as a young reader and writer was that the sheer vitality, imagination and behind it, aggression, of his writing was enough to break the force of gravity and soar into the realm of art. Of course he is not the first or only one (Roth's own hero Celine) nor is this all that is going on his work (even Portnoy has his tender side), but in my life it was Roth who made it clear I could laugh my ass off and ruminate on great literature at the same time.David Gordonhttp://www.davidmichaelgordon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3458341.post-71402859638256730912010-01-15T12:48:59.234-05:002010-01-15T12:48:59.234-05:00Jack: Happily, "the human condition as it is,...Jack: Happily, "the human condition as it is, without error or omission" is varied and subject to interpretation. There is no objective "as it is," but there <i>is</i> how the writer truly understands it, or is trying to understand it. I think that a writer ought to be honest about what he sees, but realize that others will see things differently. Likely I'm just restating you at length.scott g.f.baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05726743149139510832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3458341.post-31915667232501430352010-01-15T09:43:12.622-05:002010-01-15T09:43:12.622-05:00If a writer depicts the human condition as it is, ...If a writer depicts the human condition as it is, without error or omission, that, to me, is "moral" fiction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3458341.post-64174536536089046642010-01-14T13:33:52.707-05:002010-01-14T13:33:52.707-05:00Sadly, some writers (mostly of genre fiction, in m...Sadly, some writers (mostly of genre fiction, in my experience) believe that books ought to have a didactic or utilitarian purpose. Usually this mean Aesop-brand "morals" or American WASP values. A lot of "middle-grade" or "young adult" books are infected with this disease. A great many readers also think that fiction should have this sort of moralizing purpose. A "good book" confirms and reinforces their views about the world and all that sort of inanity. <br /><br />For a long time now, my own guiding principles for writing fiction have had nothing to do with this sort of parenting-by-proxy, and if there's any "truth" within my fiction, it's likely nothing more than the observation that life's a mess but at least there's causality.scott g.f.baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05726743149139510832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3458341.post-60688448181036378662010-01-14T13:31:52.745-05:002010-01-14T13:31:52.745-05:00Postscript: I should perhaps add my opinion that a...Postscript: I should perhaps add my opinion that assessing the moral power of a writer (and the writer's aesthetics) is not the same thing as assessing the literary quality (i.e., effectiveness and correctness) of a particular example of the writer's work. In other words, to say it differently, a well-written paragraph is not a measure of whether or not the writing is moral.R/Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07791522136032565027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3458341.post-71520375577369074202010-01-14T09:54:29.327-05:002010-01-14T09:54:29.327-05:00If a writer is true to himself or herself, with ab...If a writer is true to himself or herself, with absolute willingness to dig into and reveal (at least parts of) his or her real self for the purposes of creating that which is aesthetic (however he or she understands that arguable concept), then is not the writer then a moral (and responsible) writer? What more could you demand of a writer other than honesty and commitment to aesthetics?R/Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07791522136032565027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3458341.post-37880407875622253512010-01-13T20:29:44.446-05:002010-01-13T20:29:44.446-05:00I mean that writing is moral when it obeys the law...I mean that writing is moral when it obeys the laws of its own universe. For writers, as writers, there is only one <a href="http://dgmyers.blogspot.com/2009/09/moral-obligation-to-write-well.html" rel="nofollow">moral obligation</a>: to write well.D. G. Myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10659136455045567825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3458341.post-70818337144328188862010-01-13T19:53:03.337-05:002010-01-13T19:53:03.337-05:00Do you mean that writing is a moral act when the w...Do you mean that writing is a moral act when the writer writes freely from within his own ethical framework, for his own purposes, and that cultural assessments of the writer's (or the work's) moral stance are beside the point? Forgive my lame attempt to rephrase you; I'm trying to figure out how you define "moral," if you do define it. "Moral" as in able to distinguish between good and evil as opposed to "moral" as in upholding the mores of the prevailing culture. Or perhaps you mean something else.<br /><br />Forgive me also, if you will, the probable lack of close reading to your posts. Blogging has replaced for most people neither the art of the essay nor the art of correspondence; rather it's replaced water cooler conversation. <i>Hey, Myers said something about morality, didn't he?</i>scott g.f.baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05726743149139510832noreply@blogger.com